trey: thank you for joining us, i am trey gowdy welcome to special "sunday night in america." education can san fr transform your life and reset expectations for those who come after you, we know how important it is, we know these are challenging times for teacher and parents and students. we talk about education a -- on this show for many

reasons. let's look at some of our favorite segments. >> i am a first generation college graduate, my grandparents d didn't graduate from high school, my parents didn't have the opportunity to go to college, they instilled me and my siblings importance of a value of an education, we got 11 college degrees between me and my siblings, i got into higher education to give the same opportunity and hope to others. >> it was coaches at playground, that said being good at sports was not good enough, i stopped coaching, they told me -- stopped playing they told me that i had a respo responsibility to keeps and help other young kids. when you fund programs like that, it can make a difference in the lives of young people no matter

income or zip code. >> i was a terrible student at one point in my life, i thought i was sp stupid, my teachers and class mates agreed, then my mother made me start reading books, i got to the point that i became a book worm, i knew everything it changed the trajectory of my life, as someone that started out in lowest wrungs of society economically to ascend to top 1% that was not an accident that is because of a solid education. that wasn't something teaching me about what my gender was or pronouns i should use, but providing the appropriate type of education that allows you to function in our society. trey: here to talk about education, are cofounders of enriched literacy education,

mary cantwell and brent uton, tell us what concerns you most about the state of education for our children and then we'll go on to solutions. what concerns you both now. >> congressman thank you so much for having us on again. keeping education in the forefront for your viewers and all americans. it is so important. most concerning as we have spoken about and we started chatting about this with you last year at-this-point, the nation's report card has come out, we have historic dips in m m math and reading scoring. in detroit, which one in two children live in poverty in detroit, only 6% of fourth graders were proficient in

math in 2019, that fell to 3% post pandemic. we are in trouble. we need to really get smart about remediating math and reading issues, we have some parts of our country where children are not literate enough to be able to fill all a job -- a basic job application by the time they get older. what is on that'casion? name, address, date birth. this is troubling. trey: give us good news, i'm not known for good news, i think that everyone needs some good news, we know we're in a tough spot. there is covid funding a lot of money appropriated, i assume some is going to schools, what can the schools and teachers and parents do to get us out of this slough of dispond we're in in. >> there is many out there -- money out there for covid

learning loss remediation, let's have more institutional time, could we have pull out groups in school, hiring staff to pull out small groups of important that need help in certain areas and work with them. offering summer school and after school programming and high impact tutors after school, they are things that cove funds could be used to support. and these are questions that parents need to ask their teachers and ask their district leaders. like where is this money going? what kind of supports are in place that we can take advantage of? my child next extra support. as a parent you need to be active. and be proactive with your district. there are a lot of measures in place legally for your children should they need extra support for them to receive it you have to be

aware and educated as to the options out there. trey: you hinted at parent-teacher conferences that brings back so many terrible memories for my parents. for those parents who did not have discipline problem children. and they are going to the parent teacher conferences, what are specific questions to ask their teachers? >> it is so important to find out whether or not your child is performing to grade level. if they are not, that means they are in the lowest 50 percentile for that subject. this is a big problem. they are not getting the skills they need to be able to be successful in the next grade. so parents really need to listen to what their teachers are saying. if they are telling you, your child is not performing on grade level, it is time to get help right away. if they are telling that you your child is not retaining

information and not scaffolding or building on what they previously learned it might be time to get an educational evaluation. just to figure out how their child learns best. now more than ever parents have to be smart, there are educational advocate out there, they work to help families get services their child is in entitled to, your viewers can e-mail us, we're happy to help them. there are people out there to help parents. trey: brook a quick question. teacher shortage. if you could advise legislators or other funders how to address the teacher shortage. number one, is it real? how to we fix it? >> there is absolutely a teacher shortage.

after the covid pandemic teachers realized that demands asked of them were unrealistic. we set teachers up f for failure during the pandemic. asking them to do something they have never been done before. in mere days it was difficult, we have teachers leaving the profession, we could increase teacher salaries and reduce class sizes, membership classrooms -- many classrooms are overcrowded. having been a public schoolteacher myself and in a class with 35 students, 5 classes a day, 180 students walking through my door every day is not realistic for the students to meet the needs individually. and also grant them respect, acknowledge they are not

super heroes, and what is realistic about what that can accomplish. hire more staff. trey: mary and brook you are so great to come on, and share your expertise with us. it is important to me. i wished i had y'all to talk to. back before you were born. but thank you for talking to us now, we look forward to next time. >> thank you so much, trey. trey: thank you y'all. >> up next, if you like stories of re redemptionou and changent and second w chances, staory tuned on "sunday night inna america." nc in the projects that power our economy. from the plains to the coasts, we help americans invest for their future. and help communities thrive.

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trey: welcome back to special "sunday night in america," i may be wrong,

but i try to be clear. i think public safety is the pre-eminent fu function of government. i have very high expectations for prosecutors to be fair, pursue justice and to enforce the law evenly. but i have seen people change their lives, people learn from their mistakes and go on to lead productive lives. ours is a nation of laws and also a nation of second chances. tonight we look at what a few guests had to say about crime and how to address it. >> i think one of the biggest problems we have in government, whether the prosecutors or what is going on withed biden. people think that good intentions guarantee good results, the results right now with violence crime rate should give all of us pause. nobody anywhere whatever.

will accept i meant well. i don't care what you mine, murder rates are highest they have been in decades and the catch and release programs. that is when everyone has to take pause and say, i don't care what the intentions are, what are the results. the stories that you are talking about, the victims, amazing media never talks about them, those family members will have a missing chair at every future celebrat re is celebration that will haunt them, i wish president biden would show one ounce of the outrage he showed about voting rights as he would about rising tides of victims in america. >> we did in bush administration, i was u.s. attorney of new jersey we partnered in our major

cities, with local police departments, when we had people who were repeat offenders, we worked with them to bring the cases federally, the sentences were stiffer, there was no parole available and sent to a federal prison far from their home in new jersey, i would tell you that would reduce violent criminals in tears, they would turn on other violence criminals and turn there are people in, we turned camden. >> by reducing now 70% murder rate in camden, they could sent worst offenders federally to make sure they get stiff sentences. trey: that is the enforcement side, reality is most women and men incarcerated will be released from custody at some point. >> how we prepare the men and women for reentry also

impacts our public safety, joining us now executive director of anti-recidivism coalition, for sam cool, thank you for joining us, i would love for our viewers to know where you were, where you are now and what got you there. why this means so much to you. >> thank you trey. greatly appreciate having an opportunity to share. as quickly as i can. my experience. i spent 24 years in prison. but how i ended up there was not unique. i grew up in south central los angeles. l.a. was considered gang capital of the nation, the murder capital of the nation, in 80s, by time i was 16, i was shot twice and

stabbed, i was immersed inned gang culture, by time i was 18, i committed a horrible crime, horrible crime. i was sentenced to life. a month after entering prison. my daughter was born. and my daughter would become the reason that i wanted to change but now how i changed. very first time that i had an opportunity to hold my daughter was in a prison visitor room, 7 years into my sentence, i got into trouble. in the prison. because i continued down the path that lead me to prison, gangs and drugs and those negative things, my daughter came to visit on this particular day, she had never seen me behind thick plexiglass, she walked up to the cubical. with a look the curiosity

not understanding why i could not come out and hug her, she picked up the phone, asked me, daddy, why you are back there and why can't i hug you. i told her daddy got in trouble, i didn't tell her dadaddy was not putting you first, she asked with no judgment, can you not get in trouble any more, so when i come back i can hug you. in that moment i wanted to change. 24 years of incarceration, i came home from prison, i had the opportunity to go to college, cost the state nothing, and partaked in various programs to understand the impact of what his done and how it impacted my community, these programs helped me to fully understand what his done. but more importantly, helped my understand that i had to

hold myself accountable. we often time miss the mark. true accountability comes from the individual, and that is hard work on rehabilitative program, for me that is what i've been doing here in california, introduce more rehabilitative program, that would help people become best versions of themselves, part of the reason, when you release someone who is ready to be released, it enhanced our public safety. trey: sam i'm sure y our viewers saying, he is a leader in recentry program. i don't see a man who has been incarcerated. that is what i think our viewers are thinking. what they would love to know is, for the next sa sam,

what goes -- what it is we need to do to get from one to the other. >> it is my opinion based on my 4my experienced and work is that we have to provide programming inside of the fol facilities to help people become best versions. i am not unique, there are thousands of people like me that reentered society and they are doing a great work. i have a staff, hope and redemption team. we hold people accountable for bad choices they made to lead to us prison, we don't put enough is l investment in people in prison for them to change. if we pro.

>> trey: you mentioned public safety, overwhelming number of people incarcerated will be released. but who will be released. and whether or not they have the skills, that is a public safety issue. sam. what a story of redemption, thank you for joining us on a sean die night. sunday night. >> thank you, trey, i greatly appreciate it and appreciate the opportunity of us to consider to invest in people. trey: thank you so much sam. >> thank you. trey: coming up, leadership is in high demand, sometimes short supply, what are qualities we look for in a

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trey: welcome back to special "sunday night in america." over past months we heard from some leaders from across the country who have

achieved success and popularity. what does it take to be effective in government at the state level. >> look it is hard work. it is very well crafted. it is team work. making sure at the end of the day people come first, not about the government. we're not here to solve your problems, i champion that live for your die spirit, we're here to create as many doors of opportunity for you, your business orchid your kids, you choose what doe you want to go through and empower folks to make decisions for themselves and give them options, not saying we'll be top down, do it my way government. we champion our town meetings and our school boards and plans boards. >> you work across the aisle. many of our proposals get

democrat support, and republican support. and so you are able to work as a team, look at what is best for the state and the country. there is still partisan deneed,divide. when we came across the pandemic we kept our schools and the businesses open, that was difference in leadership among blue states and red states, proud of what we did here in arkansas in teaming keep keeping everything open. >> i rap for years ago -- ran 4 years ago, i first worked in office. i ran i said people deserve to have a good school for their kid, deserve to have a good job and deserve to have a safe neighborhood, one of primary of functions of

government to provide for the security for the people of this state. we have invested and doing so but doubling down now with the particular probably tomorrow. trey: joining us now is leader from great state of south carolina tim scott. little known fact, your mother wanted you to be preacher, i wanted you to run for governor, you ended up in senate with 60 something percent of the vote a couple weeks ago. i have forgiven you, but i'm not sure your mom has. you are a leader, what are you looking for in other leaders? what are the qualities you want to see. >> thank you, trey. i hope that everyone had a happy thanksgiving. faith in the future giving us power in the present. if we're looking for leadership we want

leadership that has a vision on who this country will be, and how we'll get there. there are a few things we need to see within leadership, first is optimism, we have to believe that best is yet to come and show people how to get there. one thing i have been blessed with is a misirable start in life, now i look back and i know that all things are possible because we are americans. america we're always a solution, we're never the problem. second thing in leadership is understanding that key to our success to victory, is not politics, not the government. it is education. education is the closest thing in america to magic. how do you get good education? you make sure that every single kid at every single zip code is empowered with that powerful ingree

ingredient of education, the parent needs to have a choice to give that child a chance. help me understand your vision of a good economy. one things that i understand as a small business owner, a good start in life is having a job. but a better start is creating jobs. understanding that you are always in charge of your economic future is another one of those key ingredients, leader shot understand individual liberty, economic dominance and educational freedom will get my attention as long as they are spending more time in the future than in the past. trey: i want to exp you about a word i hear all of the time, fight. people' leaders that will fight. i want a leader who'll think. and who think enough to know which fights are worth waging. every fight is not worth waging. i have known you for a long

time. people just cannot believe what a nice, what a nice, kind person you are. i have seen those issues that get you willing to fight. this word we hear all of the time, what do you think it means, how do you have the wisdom to know when to pick the right fight. >> if everything is a fight, that might just mean you are a bully. if nothing is a fight, it means you are not in the game. from my perspective. difference we need to knowing a fighter and a warrior. i cannot think of a more important cause outside of my faith than this country and my family. anyone who comes to interfere with my family, they will meet a very different tim scott at the door, anyone that disrespects our country they

will find a different tim scott at their door. there has to be something you are willing to lay down your life. if all you are thinking about is winning, you might be on the wrong page. what are you willing to die for and live for, there have to be principles. >> what are some of the nonof non-negotiables in your own life. i want the viewers -- what are some characteristics and traits that are nonnegotiables you would rather lose a thousand times than s sacrifice, fill in the blank. >> one of mig my -- great tr friends taught me, ve even jesus lost a

voice to brand bar abas. if you were not going to be willing to lay down your life for your faith, you are not in the right room. the question should be asked though. what does that mean. most often, it means laying down your life for americans that you have never met. think about greatest generation, the folks who fought in world war ii, making sure we're speaking english not german, those men and women went to a foreign land to make sure the world was saved. we refer to them as the greatest generation. you could about single mothers who go to work every day, like my mother, hoping and praying in america all things are possible, for the poorest, least among these. we have proven that is true. i would be willing to stand in the fire to make sure that every single child in

this country has quality education. because i know that is the greatest source of opportunity it is the closest thing to a panacea known in our country. trey: you know senator, i started by saying your mom wanted a minister of the gospel. sounds like that might be what she got. she got someone who is not afraid to preach it. senator tim scott, it is weird to me to talk about leadership qualities with you, because you have most of the ones that i'm looking for. thank you for indulging us. i hope you had a great hol day,holiday, i'll talk to you soon. >> god bless you. trey: you too. up next we negotiate and compromise a lot in life, if you have only one television in your home or share a bathroom in your house you know what i mean. we talk with an author right

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trey: welcome back to special "sunday night in america." there was a storm coming through washington d.c., a real storm and congress was rushing to the airport to

head home to beat the weather. airport was packed, i saw a couple of nuns looking at the flight delays on a screen, i'm not catholic, you don't need to be catholic to respect nuns and admire their service, i asked if i could help, one did not speak english, she was in argentina, and sister maria did speech english but also smart enough to be suspicious, i wanted to help, but there was a language barrier, i saw a guy with red curly hair running through the airport trying to catch a flight to boston, it was joey kennedy, i was lucky had shared meals with him. he was funny and smart and hard working and humble and we agreed on next to nothing. other than good to listen. good to be fair to our

opponents, we share the bond of being former prosecutors. i also remembered joey was in the peace corps he knew spanish, he came over and talked with the nuns and found out what they needed, i could picture him kneeling down while the nuns sat, getting information so we could find a way to help. he wanted to get home like the rest of us. he was the a brand new father, he had a thousand reasons to go and catch his flight. but we worked together, he knew the language, i had the time. 1 we their flight to houston was canceled. we talked about renting a car and driving to c charlotte, they made to houston, and make to south america. i had the time, joey knew the language, we shared a desired to help. i visited sister maria months later, still hear from her, she said she prays

for me daily, and i'm still in contact with joey, we're out of politics. we found enough in common to talk. at an airport during a storm to work together to help others. joining us now one of the authors of a question of respect, solinda. give us a couple reasons how we got to be so deeply divided. >> very disturbing. this is a book written by a democratic pollster born and raised republican, myself. and ed goaz, a republican pollster born and rated democratic, i loved your story. there are a lot of things, social media is one of things that is really fostering division and intensity. the search for cliques rather than compromise.

the way we run and fund campaigns and we gerrymander districts and both parties of guilty of this, increases division. now participation primaries. only 13% now participating, they don't tend to generate people who are eager to work with others. across the board we don't find members, now everyone is rushing home, people don't spend time together finds out about common space, their kids don't play on the same baseball time, they are not neighbors or roommates in the same house. there is a lot that contributes to lack of respect in the system. both edand i were raised, one a ranch family, the other military family in hawaii and montana. we were taught by families, you grant respect first. we want to start a conversation there.

much as you did. thank you for that. up lifting story. trey: well, this is -- this is what it has dumfounded me, you look at this, i had a guess, that is which came first, when we given this unless supply of negativity and voters adapted to it or did the voters say this is what we want. i do wonder which came first the demand or supply of acrimony. >> this is an astute question, we puzzled about, that we think there is a feedback loop that is circular, we know as a basic psychological principle people remember negative more than positive. but american believes it on the verge of civil war

that say bipartisan agreement, people want to do something about this, they want to reward candidates who run positive campaigns and layout their agenda rather than p blow up their opponents, people don't like the negativity on system s social media, and they are exiting ssocial media because of it. we commend in the book john mccain and joe biden who wrote the eulogy for john mccain as two examples of profound respect for one another. trey: the conflict has become so debilitating for those who will never run for office, but they have survive holidays with folks with department political

beliefs, is there a difference between can draft draft -- contrast and conflict. >> i think you are very optimistic. we wrote an op-ed, that called just for that at thanksgiving dinner, let's try to get along and respect -- let's listen. i noticed you used that word on this show. let's listen to each other, and receive each other's opinions and really listen not just wait to get our point of view in. there are a lot of families and a lot of women leaning families who would love for that to be the way we spend our holidays and next set holidays. trey: thank you so much, for joining us. >> thank you. trey: coming up, how to have a meaningful and purposeful life. how to live a life of gratitude, "new york times" best sounding author. heisman trophy winner tim

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trey: welcome back to special "sunday night in america," holiday season has begun. ing this this hanukkah, christmas and then a brand-new year. how to view this new year as an opportunity for growth, how to live a

mission-possible life, tim tebow is still very young but he lead a consequential life in many ways. what drives tim tebow can be shared by all of us. joining us now, new york times best selling author of the mission possible. before i get to what many people considered to be most important part. deal with what i think is important, you were in colombia for south carolina-tennessee football game, we won. if you want me to lead a happy inspired life, i need you to come to all of our games from now on. >> we might be a good luck charm that was not withinly -- win, but a beating. i know how much you care. congratulations, trey. it was the an amay maze coul.

>> it was an amazing victory, maybe we're a g good luck charm. trey: holidays are coming. also a very sad time for more than we might imagine. give us a reason for joy even durings times of sadness. >> because we get a chance to be grateful, not based on our successes but greatest solution ever. his name was jesus that loves us and has a great plan for us, i hope everyone that knows that. it is crazy, when we talk about thankfulness and gratitude. there are so many different universities that have done studies, been har they have all done studies to choosing gratefulness and gratitude, they all found it leads to greater happiness, and less stress, and less

doctor visits a better all better life. you have a biochem call change for better. some of these studies they would have some of the different groups write down one thing every day they were grateful for. how just doing that, one thing every day, had a biochem call change for the better, we get caught up in a lot of negativity, even in those moments we can still choose be to grateful for something each day. trey: all right tim, we have this gift of a new year. how do we find significant in our lives.

>> you talk about success, it is about you. you talk about significance it is about others. so many times in our lives, we're search are for success, so many days in my life i wanted to be successful. at the end of my life i would rather be significant. because success is just about you, but significant about others, at the end of your life will you just have success or significant, everyone single one of us can go after both. all of us get to do, that then i would say, i would encourage everyone that we have a purpose, there is a reason we were created, i believe we were created on purpose for a purpose, that is w what we call it mission possible, missioned is another word for saying purpose, mission is a task or a job someone has given to d do or reason why they are here. we say possible, it means be on able, we have a task or a

job we're able to do. it to love god, love people, serve people and make an impact in their lives, we also choose significance over success when we do that. trey: i've never seen you, who you are not smiling. you work with a guy named paul -- that has to get you down from time to time, how do you choose to joyful and happy under tough working ses. >> i'm trying to make him laugh. find ways to make him laugh when alabama not having their best year. i have to find ways to bring joy to him to be cont contagious for him. trey: you are doing a great job -- hope you had a great thanksgiving, happy holidays tim tebow. >> appreciate you brother, thank you for being supportive of the ministry

and helping people make a difference in their lives. trey: thank you for spending part of your sunday with us, hope you have a great week ahead, until next week you can find us on-line or on the trey gowdy pod casted, good night from south carolina, "life, liberty and levin" is up next. ♪ ♪ mark: hello america, i am mark levin this is our special thanksgiving version of "life, liberty and levin." i hope you have a great thanksgiving. i know it cost about 20% more. but these will be the good old days, wait until next year. but, that said, one thing i'm blessed to do is this program. and i'm blessed to hav